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launched high above the clouds and
 

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launched high above the clouds and
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filtering atmosphere on February
 

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filtering atmosphere on February
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fourteen nineteen eighty the solar
 

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fourteen nineteen eighty the solar
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maximum Observatory is a source of very
 

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maximum Observatory is a source of very
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detailed information about the Sun for
 

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detailed information about the Sun for
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the first nine months of the plan
 

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the first nine months of the plan
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two-year mission the satellite collected
 

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two-year mission the satellite collected
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spectacular new data hundreds of
 

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spectacular new data hundreds of
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scientists gathered at NASA's Goddard
 

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scientists gathered at NASA's Goddard
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Space Flight Center in Greenbelt
 

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Maryland in a ground observatories
 

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Maryland in a ground observatories
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around the world to study the Sun and
 

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around the world to study the Sun and
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solar flares scientists made numerous
 

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solar flares scientists made numerous
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discoveries and raised many new
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questions about the Sun then in late
 

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questions about the Sun then in late
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nineteen eighty-three fuses failed in
 

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nineteen eighty-three fuses failed in
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the attitude control subsystem module
 

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the attitude control subsystem module
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this meant that the satellite could no
 

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this meant that the satellite could no
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longer point precisely at the
 

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longer point precisely at the
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observation areas on the Sun fortunately
 

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observation areas on the Sun fortunately
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solar max was the first of a new breed
 

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solar max was the first of a new breed
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of satellites build of standardized
 

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of satellites build of standardized
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components and designed to be repaired
 

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components and designed to be repaired
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in space the faulty attitude control
 

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in space the faulty attitude control
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module is one of the three replaceable
 

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module is one of the three replaceable
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box-like units that control power
 

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box-like units that control power
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command functions and the positioning of
 

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command functions and the positioning of
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the satellite these units are part of
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the multi-mission modular spacecraft or
 

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the multi-mission modular spacecraft or
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mms which makes up the lower portion of
 

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mms which makes up the lower portion of
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the solar max satellite the upper
 

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the solar max satellite the upper
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portion the observatory contains seven
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different instruments for solar research
 

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different instruments for solar research
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however a considerable amount of
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planning and preparation had to be
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accomplished before that repair could
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occur the solar maximum repair mission
 

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occur the solar maximum repair mission
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in 1984 chalked up a number of
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these successes were possible because of
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some of the unique management approaches
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1960s and early 1970s certainly there
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must be some very interesting management
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lessons learned from the mms and solar
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max experience i'm dutch funny retreat
 

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max experience i'm dutch funny retreat
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on behalf of the NASA program and
 

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on behalf of the NASA program and
project management training and

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project management training and
 

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project management training and
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development initiative now let's go to
 

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development initiative now let's go to
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Goddard Space Flight Center and get some
 

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Goddard Space Flight Center and get some
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insight on the mms from frank cipollina
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the project manager for the mms thanks
 

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the project manager for the mms thanks
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for joining us sepi what were some of
 

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for joining us sepi what were some of
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the more dominant management challenges
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that allowed for the development of the
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modular spacecraft well that's the most
 

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modular spacecraft well that's the most
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dominant challenge was the desire to try
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to fly more science at less cost and the
 

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to fly more science at less cost and the
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period of the late sixties inflation was
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beginning to skyrocket the Apollo
 

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beginning to skyrocket the Apollo
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program was coming down phasing down
 

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program was coming down phasing down
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along with it the budgets were dropping
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off and yet from a scientific taste or
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desire or flavor we were getting many
 

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desire or flavor we were getting many
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many good new missions to fly and
 

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many good new missions to fly and
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searching desperately to find the
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dollars as an agency to fly those new
 

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dollars as an agency to fly those new
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scientific missions and that was really
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the challenge that we as a center try to
 

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the challenge that we as a center try to
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step up to since we are a scientific
 

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step up to since we are a scientific
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Space Flight Center well how can you
 

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Space Flight Center well how can you
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answer a question like
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well when I think back I am amazed at
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how how it came out but in fact the the
 

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how how it came out but in fact the the
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aspects of answering it took four years
 

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aspects of answering it took four years
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of very very hard work and an intense
 

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of very very hard work and an intense
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team of experienced scientists and
 

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team of experienced scientists and
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engineers the den center director 1970
 

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engineers the den center director 1970
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formalized such a team and challenge
 

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formalized such a team and challenge
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them basically to look at what are the
 

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them basically to look at what are the
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elements of spacecraft cost and how
 

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elements of spacecraft cost and how
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could we in fact reduce those costs that
 

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could we in fact reduce those costs that
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team concentrated on looking at the
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space crafts of the 1960s 150 280 some
 

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space crafts of the 1960s 150 280 some
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odd spacecrafts the NASA designed built
 

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odd spacecrafts the NASA designed built
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and launched in that decade and they
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focused not so much with the design
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characteristics of the space crafts but
 

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characteristics of the space crafts but
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rather with the design characteristics
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as how they related to cost and the cost
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aspects and then finally with that
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database we went to private industry and
 

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database we went to private industry and
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we did some rather significant economic
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studies focusing on design parameters as
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a function of cost but what were some of
 

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a function of cost but what were some of
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the findings of those studies well touch
 

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the findings of those studies well touch
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there were four major findings of the
 

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there were four major findings of the
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studies the first one not so surprising
 

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studies the first one not so surprising
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said that in the period of the 60s we
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did not have any significant commonality
 

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did not have any significant commonality
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of space crafts second findings said
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that even though we had point design
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spacecrafts within those space crafts
 

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spacecrafts within those space crafts
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were in fact a lot of common boxes black
 

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were in fact a lot of common boxes black
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boxes equipment and the third finding
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which was probably the most significant
 

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which was probably the most significant
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from a cost containment point of view
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was the fact that almost the vast
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majority of the spacecraft developments
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total program costs in the integration
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and test phase of the spacecraft that in
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itself highlighted something that
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perhaps we could deal with from new
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spacecraft architecture new spacecraft
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design
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and in effect that really said we were
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spending a lot of time reinventing the
 

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spending a lot of time reinventing the
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spacecraft wheels when in fact the only
 

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spacecraft wheels when in fact the only
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thing that was changing was the outside
 

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thing that was changing was the outside
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architecture of the spacecraft the last
 

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architecture of the spacecraft the last
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point was the point that kind of gave us
 

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point was the point that kind of gave us
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credence for multi mission capability
 

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credence for multi mission capability
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and that is that for most of those 150
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to 180 missions many of those could be
 

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to 180 missions many of those could be
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synthesized into four different
 

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synthesized into four different
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performance categories and if somehow we
 

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performance categories and if somehow we
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could design a spacecraft that could
 

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could design a spacecraft that could
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meet the performance requirements of
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those four categories we have the
 

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those four categories we have the
essence of a system which would not

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essence of a system which would not
 

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essence of a system which would not
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necessitate so to speak reinventing the
 

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necessitate so to speak reinventing the
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spacecraft for those four types of
 

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spacecraft for those four types of
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missions but what was some of the
 

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missions but what was some of the
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programmatic issues in the environment
 

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programmatic issues in the environment
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that allowed for the acceptance of the
 

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that allowed for the acceptance of the
modular spacecraft concept Pat I guess

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modular spacecraft concept Pat I guess
 

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modular spacecraft concept Pat I guess
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it could be summarized by one word
 

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it could be summarized by one word
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netword with skepticism there was a
 

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netword with skepticism there was a
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tremendous amount of skepticism although
 

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tremendous amount of skepticism although
people saw economic studies saw the cost

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people saw economic studies saw the cost
 

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people saw economic studies saw the cost
benefits that am elated from those

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benefits that am elated from those
 

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benefits that am elated from those
studies the most significant problem

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studies the most significant problem
 

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studies the most significant problem
that we had was what we were proposing

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that we had was what we were proposing
 

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that we had was what we were proposing
was a revolutionary spacecraft and in

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was a revolutionary spacecraft and in
 

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was a revolutionary spacecraft and in
proposing a revolutionary spacecraft

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proposing a revolutionary spacecraft
 

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proposing a revolutionary spacecraft
there's always this fear that a it may

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there's always this fear that a it may
 

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there's always this fear that a it may
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not work technically when it's once it's
 

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not work technically when it's once it's
put in orbit the risk is very high and

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put in orbit the risk is very high and
 

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put in orbit the risk is very high and
the second point is the fact that in the

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the second point is the fact that in the
 

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the second point is the fact that in the
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development process it may not be
 

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development process it may not be
feasible to contain the cost growth you

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feasible to contain the cost growth you
 

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feasible to contain the cost growth you
may run into new technological problems

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may run into new technological problems
 

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may run into new technological problems
that had never been faced before so we

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that had never been faced before so we
 

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that had never been faced before so we
had to focus over that four or five year

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had to focus over that four or five year
 

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had to focus over that four or five year
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period in dealing with our critics in
 

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period in dealing with our critics in
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attempting to answer those four major
 

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attempting to answer those four major
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problems those questions of cost
 

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problems those questions of cost
containment out of skepticism of

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containment out of skepticism of
 

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containment out of skepticism of
performance of risk assessment risk

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performance of risk assessment risk
 

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performance of risk assessment risk
managed well sepi what was the influence

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managed well sepi what was the influence
 

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managed well sepi what was the influence
of Apollo and shuttle on your program at

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of Apollo and shuttle on your program at
 

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of Apollo and shuttle on your program at
that time I think we can best answer

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that time I think we can best answer
 

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that time I think we can best answer
that question if we walk up now to the

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that question if we walk up now to the
 

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that question if we walk up now to the
shuttlebay trainer and take a look at

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shuttlebay trainer and take a look at
 

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shuttlebay trainer and take a look at
our latest mms spacecraft that's been

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our latest mms spacecraft that's been
 

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our latest mms spacecraft that's been
delivered from the production line

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now that we're up here dutch i think i

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now that we're up here dutch i think i
 

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now that we're up here dutch i think i
can better explain the impact and the

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can better explain the impact and the
 

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can better explain the impact and the
influences of both the Apollo and the

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influences of both the Apollo and the
 

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influences of both the Apollo and the
shuttle program had on our spacecraft

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shuttle program had on our spacecraft
 

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shuttle program had on our spacecraft
architecture perhaps the most single

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architecture perhaps the most single
 

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architecture perhaps the most single
critical dilemma that was posed to us in

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critical dilemma that was posed to us in
 

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critical dilemma that was posed to us in
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the early 70s was the dilemma of having
 

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the early 70s was the dilemma of having
to deal with how to shuttle eyes and

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to deal with how to shuttle eyes and
 

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to deal with how to shuttle eyes and
make our spacecraft systems serviceable

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make our spacecraft systems serviceable
 

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make our spacecraft systems serviceable
one of the most fundamental problems

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one of the most fundamental problems
 

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one of the most fundamental problems
that we had was that all our economic

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that we had was that all our economic
 

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that we had was that all our economic
studies were showing study after study

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studies were showing study after study
 

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studies were showing study after study
after study the advantages from a cost

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after study the advantages from a cost
 

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after study the advantages from a cost
control point of view and a foremost

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control point of view and a foremost
 

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control point of view and a foremost
serviceability point of view of

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serviceability point of view of
 

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serviceability point of view of
repairing servicing changing out

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repairing servicing changing out
 

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repairing servicing changing out
payloads on orbit for these spacecrafts

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payloads on orbit for these spacecrafts
 

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payloads on orbit for these spacecrafts
by the same token the experience factor

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by the same token the experience factor
 

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by the same token the experience factor
that the agency had had on the Apollo

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that the agency had had on the Apollo
 

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that the agency had had on the Apollo
program was the very high cost of man

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program was the very high cost of man
 

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program was the very high cost of man
rating equipment and our customers view

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rating equipment and our customers view
 

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rating equipment and our customers view
this as a is basically a very serious

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this as a is basically a very serious
 

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this as a is basically a very serious
cost control problem and we had to hit

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cost control problem and we had to hit
 

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cost control problem and we had to hit
this problem very hard and we had to hit

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this problem very hard and we had to hit
 

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this problem very hard and we had to hit
it hard head on and deal with it and I'm

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it hard head on and deal with it and I'm
 

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it hard head on and deal with it and I'm
point by point basis what we did

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point by point basis what we did
 

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point by point basis what we did
basically was to rely very heavily on a

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basically was to rely very heavily on a
 

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basically was to rely very heavily on a
very significant series of economic

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very significant series of economic
 

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very significant series of economic
studies to delte not so much with

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studies to delte not so much with
 

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studies to delte not so much with
serviceability but with how to build a

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serviceability but with how to build a
 

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serviceability but with how to build a
lower-cost better architectured

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lower-cost better architectured
 

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lower-cost better architectured
multi-mission type of spacecraft system

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multi-mission type of spacecraft system
 

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multi-mission type of spacecraft system
and what we did with our customers was

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and what we did with our customers was
 

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and what we did with our customers was
convince them that whether we serviced

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convince them that whether we serviced
 

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convince them that whether we serviced
on orbit or not whether we launched on

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on orbit or not whether we launched on
 

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on orbit or not whether we launched on
the shuttle are launched on a

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the shuttle are launched on a
 

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the shuttle are launched on a
conventional launch vehicle and our

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conventional launch vehicle and our
 

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conventional launch vehicle and our
spacecraft was architecture to fly

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spacecraft was architecture to fly
 

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spacecraft was architecture to fly
either way fly on a delta fly on a Titan

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either way fly on a delta fly on a Titan
 

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either way fly on a delta fly on a Titan
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or even or fly on the shuttle regardless
 

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or even or fly on the shuttle regardless
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of the method of launch regardless of
 

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of the method of launch regardless of
whether one considered serviceability or

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whether one considered serviceability or
 

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whether one considered serviceability or
not the architecture of the spacecraft

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not the architecture of the spacecraft
 

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not the architecture of the spacecraft
was such that it's economies were

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was such that it's economies were
 

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was such that it's economies were
significantly lower by virtue of the

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significantly lower by virtue of the
 

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significantly lower by virtue of the
fact that we in fact did make it modular

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fact that we in fact did make it modular
 

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fact that we in fact did make it modular
and easy to assemble and test on the

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and easy to assemble and test on the
 

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and easy to assemble and test on the
ground and therefore because we reduce

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ground and therefore because we reduce
 

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ground and therefore because we reduce
that integration in Tesla a time

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that integration in Tesla a time
 

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that integration in Tesla a time
we were able to save some thirty to

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we were able to save some thirty to
 

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we were able to save some thirty to
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forty percent of a typical program
 

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forty percent of a typical program
caused by negating the need for first of

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caused by negating the need for first of
 

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caused by negating the need for first of
all redeveloping of the spacecraft and

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all redeveloping of the spacecraft and
 

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all redeveloping of the spacecraft and
then shortening typical space graphs

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then shortening typical space graphs
 

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then shortening typical space graphs
integration and test time with the

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integration and test time with the
 

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integration and test time with the
observatory instruments and that was the

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observatory instruments and that was the
 

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observatory instruments and that was the
fundamental approach by which we hit

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fundamental approach by which we hit
 

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fundamental approach by which we hit
this problem and eventually I think that

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this problem and eventually I think that
 

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this problem and eventually I think that
particular approach did persist and we

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particular approach did persist and we
 

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particular approach did persist and we
were finally able to convince our

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were finally able to convince our
 

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were finally able to convince our
customers so that was the better way to

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customers so that was the better way to
 

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customers so that was the better way to
go well sepi what were some of the

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go well sepi what were some of the
 

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go well sepi what were some of the
aspects of those economic studies well

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aspects of those economic studies well
 

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aspects of those economic studies well
there were eight economic studies run

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there were eight economic studies run
 

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there were eight economic studies run
during the nineteen seventy-two 1975

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during the nineteen seventy-two 1975
 

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during the nineteen seventy-two 1975
period and the majority of the economic

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period and the majority of the economic
 

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period and the majority of the economic
studies dealt with the level of

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studies dealt with the level of
 

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studies dealt with the level of
spacecraft modularity from an economic

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spacecraft modularity from an economic
 

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spacecraft modularity from an economic
point of view from a lower cost possible

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point of view from a lower cost possible
 

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00:11:16,090 --> 00:11:19,410
point of view from a lower cost possible
point of view we dealt with trying to

478
00:11:19,410 --> 00:11:19,420
point of view we dealt with trying to
 

479
00:11:19,420 --> 00:11:21,710
point of view we dealt with trying to
understand the economic implication of

480
00:11:21,710 --> 00:11:21,720
understand the economic implication of
 

481
00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,780
understand the economic implication of
making an entire spacecraft modular and

482
00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:24,790
making an entire spacecraft modular and
 

483
00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:26,790
making an entire spacecraft modular and
throw away able replaceable at the

484
00:11:26,790 --> 00:11:26,800
throw away able replaceable at the
 

485
00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,310
throw away able replaceable at the
spacecraft level the next level down was

486
00:11:29,310 --> 00:11:29,320
spacecraft level the next level down was
 

487
00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,350
spacecraft level the next level down was
at the subsystem level and then we

488
00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:31,360
at the subsystem level and then we
 

489
00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,240
at the subsystem level and then we
looked at the individual component

490
00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:33,250
looked at the individual component
 

491
00:11:33,250 --> 00:11:35,130
looked at the individual component
modularity that is making individual

492
00:11:35,130 --> 00:11:35,140
modularity that is making individual
 

493
00:11:35,140 --> 00:11:38,430
modularity that is making individual
components removable and replaceable the

494
00:11:38,430 --> 00:11:38,440
components removable and replaceable the
 

495
00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,860
components removable and replaceable the
most significant economic study of all

496
00:11:40,860 --> 00:11:40,870
most significant economic study of all
 

497
00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:42,750
most significant economic study of all
that is when i say significant i mean

498
00:11:42,750 --> 00:11:42,760
that is when i say significant i mean
 

499
00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,730
that is when i say significant i mean
that had the most impact and influence

500
00:11:44,730 --> 00:11:44,740
that had the most impact and influence
 

501
00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:47,850
that had the most impact and influence
with our potential customers was the

502
00:11:47,850 --> 00:11:47,860
with our potential customers was the
 

503
00:11:47,860 --> 00:11:51,000
with our potential customers was the
Aerospace Corporation study that dealt

504
00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:51,010
Aerospace Corporation study that dealt
 

505
00:11:51,010 --> 00:11:54,390
Aerospace Corporation study that dealt
not with servicing but with the economic

506
00:11:54,390 --> 00:11:54,400
not with servicing but with the economic
 

507
00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,400
not with servicing but with the economic
benefits associated with having a

508
00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:56,410
benefits associated with having a
 

509
00:11:56,410 --> 00:11:59,340
benefits associated with having a
standard modular spacecraft that could

510
00:11:59,340 --> 00:11:59,350
standard modular spacecraft that could
 

511
00:11:59,350 --> 00:12:02,010
standard modular spacecraft that could
accommodate four or five different sets

512
00:12:02,010 --> 00:12:02,020
accommodate four or five different sets
 

513
00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:04,220
accommodate four or five different sets
of missions without redevelopment and

514
00:12:04,220 --> 00:12:04,230
of missions without redevelopment and
 

515
00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:07,410
of missions without redevelopment and
that could be assembled by virtue of its

516
00:12:07,410 --> 00:12:07,420
that could be assembled by virtue of its
 

517
00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:10,320
that could be assembled by virtue of its
modularity on the ground significantly

518
00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:10,330
modularity on the ground significantly
 

519
00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:12,630
modularity on the ground significantly
faster and therefore less expensive that

520
00:12:12,630 --> 00:12:12,640
faster and therefore less expensive that
 

521
00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,810
faster and therefore less expensive that
study highlighted the key that our

522
00:12:15,810 --> 00:12:15,820
study highlighted the key that our
 

523
00:12:15,820 --> 00:12:17,460
study highlighted the key that our
customers were really looking for the

524
00:12:17,460 --> 00:12:17,470
customers were really looking for the
 

525
00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:19,560
customers were really looking for the
potential of a thirty to forty percent

526
00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:19,570
potential of a thirty to forty percent
 

527
00:12:19,570 --> 00:12:21,990
potential of a thirty to forty percent
savings for each of the specific

528
00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:22,000
savings for each of the specific
 

529
00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,390
savings for each of the specific
missions that would use a so-called

530
00:12:24,390 --> 00:12:24,400
missions that would use a so-called
 

531
00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,710
missions that would use a so-called
standard or common spacecraft bus well

532
00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:28,720
standard or common spacecraft bus well
 

533
00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,120
standard or common spacecraft bus well
what were some of the conclusions of

534
00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:30,130
what were some of the conclusions of
 

535
00:12:30,130 --> 00:12:34,200
what were some of the conclusions of
those studies the the conclusions

536
00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:34,210
those studies the the conclusions
 

537
00:12:34,210 --> 00:12:37,320
those studies the the conclusions
especially the aerospace conclusion led

538
00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:37,330
especially the aerospace conclusion led
 

539
00:12:37,330 --> 00:12:41,190
especially the aerospace conclusion led
our customers to forget about the

540
00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:41,200
our customers to forget about the
 

541
00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,680
our customers to forget about the
sort of speak the risks associated with

542
00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:43,690
sort of speak the risks associated with
 

543
00:12:43,690 --> 00:12:47,300
sort of speak the risks associated with
servicing they sort of put servicing

544
00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:47,310
servicing they sort of put servicing
 

545
00:12:47,310 --> 00:12:49,440
servicing they sort of put servicing
requirements out of their mind and it

546
00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:49,450
requirements out of their mind and it
 

547
00:12:49,450 --> 00:12:51,150
requirements out of their mind and it
was very nice for them to say we won't

548
00:12:51,150 --> 00:12:51,160
was very nice for them to say we won't
 

549
00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,580
was very nice for them to say we won't
do anything to preclude servicing but by

550
00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:53,590
do anything to preclude servicing but by
 

551
00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:55,680
do anything to preclude servicing but by
the same token we won't have to spend

552
00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:55,690
the same token we won't have to spend
 

553
00:12:55,690 --> 00:12:58,980
the same token we won't have to spend
any money at making a system serviceable

554
00:12:58,980 --> 00:12:58,990
any money at making a system serviceable
 

555
00:12:58,990 --> 00:13:02,040
any money at making a system serviceable
because modularity and rapid ground

556
00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:02,050
because modularity and rapid ground
 

557
00:13:02,050 --> 00:13:05,220
because modularity and rapid ground
integration and test breeds ease of

558
00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:05,230
integration and test breeds ease of
 

559
00:13:05,230 --> 00:13:07,050
integration and test breeds ease of
servicing on orbit and I think of all

560
00:13:07,050 --> 00:13:07,060
servicing on orbit and I think of all
 

561
00:13:07,060 --> 00:13:09,150
servicing on orbit and I think of all
the conclusions of one could draw that

562
00:13:09,150 --> 00:13:09,160
the conclusions of one could draw that
 

563
00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,120
the conclusions of one could draw that
was the one that really put the message

564
00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:12,130
was the one that really put the message
 

565
00:13:12,130 --> 00:13:13,950
was the one that really put the message
across to our customers and everybody

566
00:13:13,950 --> 00:13:13,960
across to our customers and everybody
 

567
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,260
across to our customers and everybody
could sort of speak be the Maytag could

568
00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:16,270
could sort of speak be the Maytag could
 

569
00:13:16,270 --> 00:13:20,610
could sort of speak be the Maytag could
watch the Maytag repairmen leaning on

570
00:13:20,610 --> 00:13:20,620
watch the Maytag repairmen leaning on
 

571
00:13:20,620 --> 00:13:23,040
watch the Maytag repairmen leaning on
his washing machine and should the day

572
00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:23,050
his washing machine and should the day
 

573
00:13:23,050 --> 00:13:25,230
his washing machine and should the day
ever arise that we did have to conduct

574
00:13:25,230 --> 00:13:25,240
ever arise that we did have to conduct
 

575
00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,140
ever arise that we did have to conduct
an emergency repair maintenance the

576
00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:28,150
an emergency repair maintenance the
 

577
00:13:28,150 --> 00:13:30,510
an emergency repair maintenance the
system could in fact be compatible to do

578
00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:30,520
system could in fact be compatible to do
 

579
00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,620
system could in fact be compatible to do
it well semi wasn't really difficult

580
00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:34,630
it well semi wasn't really difficult
 

581
00:13:34,630 --> 00:13:38,010
it well semi wasn't really difficult
selling upper management well I guess I

582
00:13:38,010 --> 00:13:38,020
selling upper management well I guess I
 

583
00:13:38,020 --> 00:13:39,900
selling upper management well I guess I
would have to say yes and so it took us

584
00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:39,910
would have to say yes and so it took us
 

585
00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:42,930
would have to say yes and so it took us
five years to do that I think that in

586
00:13:42,930 --> 00:13:42,940
five years to do that I think that in
 

587
00:13:42,940 --> 00:13:44,910
five years to do that I think that in
looking back in the process of trying to

588
00:13:44,910 --> 00:13:44,920
looking back in the process of trying to
 

589
00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,400
looking back in the process of trying to
convince upper management we had to deal

590
00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:47,410
convince upper management we had to deal
 

591
00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:50,330
convince upper management we had to deal
with some very specific questions and

592
00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:50,340
with some very specific questions and
 

593
00:13:50,340 --> 00:13:54,060
with some very specific questions and
convince the upper management at NASA

594
00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:54,070
convince the upper management at NASA
 

595
00:13:54,070 --> 00:13:57,510
convince the upper management at NASA
headquarters that this plunge was was

596
00:13:57,510 --> 00:13:57,520
headquarters that this plunge was was
 

597
00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,090
headquarters that this plunge was was
worth was worth their investment and was

598
00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:00,100
worth was worth their investment and was
 

599
00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:03,060
worth was worth their investment and was
worth taking a risk to do and the way we

600
00:14:03,060 --> 00:14:03,070
worth taking a risk to do and the way we
 

601
00:14:03,070 --> 00:14:05,370
worth taking a risk to do and the way we
did that was first of all find that

602
00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:05,380
did that was first of all find that
 

603
00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:07,980
did that was first of all find that
first willing customer that first

604
00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:07,990
first willing customer that first
 

605
00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:12,270
first willing customer that first
program who by either necessity or by

606
00:14:12,270 --> 00:14:12,280
program who by either necessity or by
 

607
00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,990
program who by either necessity or by
cost constraints was willing to join

608
00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:16,000
cost constraints was willing to join
 

609
00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,120
cost constraints was willing to join
with us and that program happened to be

610
00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:18,130
with us and that program happened to be
 

611
00:14:18,130 --> 00:14:22,640
with us and that program happened to be
the solar max mission spacecraft program

612
00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:22,650
the solar max mission spacecraft program
 

613
00:14:22,650 --> 00:14:27,180
the solar max mission spacecraft program
the process by which we sold them on the

614
00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:27,190
the process by which we sold them on the
 

615
00:14:27,190 --> 00:14:29,130
the process by which we sold them on the
approach was first of all we convinced

616
00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:29,140
approach was first of all we convinced
 

617
00:14:29,140 --> 00:14:30,690
approach was first of all we convinced
them that we could launch on any launch

618
00:14:30,690 --> 00:14:30,700
them that we could launch on any launch
 

619
00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:32,340
them that we could launch on any launch
vehicle that we did not have to wait for

620
00:14:32,340 --> 00:14:32,350
vehicle that we did not have to wait for
 

621
00:14:32,350 --> 00:14:34,800
vehicle that we did not have to wait for
the shuttle we could launch on a delta

622
00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:34,810
the shuttle we could launch on a delta
 

623
00:14:34,810 --> 00:14:38,280
the shuttle we could launch on a delta
or a Titan and the next process was the

624
00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:38,290
or a Titan and the next process was the
 

625
00:14:38,290 --> 00:14:45,270
or a Titan and the next process was the
process of invincible risk by virtue of

626
00:14:45,270 --> 00:14:45,280
process of invincible risk by virtue of
 

627
00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,810
process of invincible risk by virtue of
the amount of breadboarding and

628
00:14:47,810 --> 00:14:47,820
the amount of breadboarding and
 

629
00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:50,430
the amount of breadboarding and
Technology testing we were doing here on

630
00:14:50,430 --> 00:14:50,440
Technology testing we were doing here on
 

631
00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,110
Technology testing we were doing here on
the ground and got it over this five

632
00:14:52,110 --> 00:14:52,120
the ground and got it over this five
 

633
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,449
the ground and got it over this five
year period

634
00:14:53,449 --> 00:14:53,459
year period
 

635
00:14:53,459 --> 00:14:56,809
year period
the last aspect had to do with our

636
00:14:56,809 --> 00:14:56,819
the last aspect had to do with our
 

637
00:14:56,819 --> 00:14:59,929
the last aspect had to do with our
convincing null hinners that from a

638
00:14:59,929 --> 00:14:59,939
convincing null hinners that from a
 

639
00:14:59,939 --> 00:15:02,900
convincing null hinners that from a
solar max observatory point of view from

640
00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:02,910
solar max observatory point of view from
 

641
00:15:02,910 --> 00:15:05,090
solar max observatory point of view from
an agency point of view from a

642
00:15:05,090 --> 00:15:05,100
an agency point of view from a
 

643
00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:09,109
an agency point of view from a
futuristic thinking that on-orbit

644
00:15:09,109 --> 00:15:09,119
futuristic thinking that on-orbit
 

645
00:15:09,119 --> 00:15:12,169
futuristic thinking that on-orbit
servicing down the pike a modular

646
00:15:12,169 --> 00:15:12,179
servicing down the pike a modular
 

647
00:15:12,179 --> 00:15:16,009
servicing down the pike a modular
spacecraft up front more economical

648
00:15:16,009 --> 00:15:16,019
spacecraft up front more economical
 

649
00:15:16,019 --> 00:15:18,079
spacecraft up front more economical
approach for not just a solar max

650
00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:18,089
approach for not just a solar max
 

651
00:15:18,089 --> 00:15:20,509
approach for not just a solar max
mission but for landsat missions and

652
00:15:20,509 --> 00:15:20,519
mission but for landsat missions and
 

653
00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:24,499
mission but for landsat missions and
future uars missions and so on that a

654
00:15:24,499 --> 00:15:24,509
future uars missions and so on that a
 

655
00:15:24,509 --> 00:15:26,600
future uars missions and so on that a
common spacecraft that could take care

656
00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:26,610
common spacecraft that could take care
 

657
00:15:26,610 --> 00:15:28,689
common spacecraft that could take care
of four or five different types of

658
00:15:28,689 --> 00:15:28,699
of four or five different types of
 

659
00:15:28,699 --> 00:15:31,419
of four or five different types of
mission constraints requirements and

660
00:15:31,419 --> 00:15:31,429
mission constraints requirements and
 

661
00:15:31,429 --> 00:15:33,710
mission constraints requirements and
configurations would be best for the

662
00:15:33,710 --> 00:15:33,720
configurations would be best for the
 

663
00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,650
configurations would be best for the
agency and no hitters had the wisdom to

664
00:15:36,650 --> 00:15:36,660
agency and no hitters had the wisdom to
 

665
00:15:36,660 --> 00:15:39,619
agency and no hitters had the wisdom to
step up to that and said yes we will

666
00:15:39,619 --> 00:15:39,629
step up to that and said yes we will
 

667
00:15:39,629 --> 00:15:42,169
step up to that and said yes we will
take the plunge we will go with this

668
00:15:42,169 --> 00:15:42,179
take the plunge we will go with this
 

669
00:15:42,179 --> 00:15:52,720
take the plunge we will go with this
process

670
00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:52,730

 

671
00:15:52,730 --> 00:15:54,460

we're fortunate to have with us today

672
00:15:54,460 --> 00:15:54,470
we're fortunate to have with us today
 

673
00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:57,129
we're fortunate to have with us today
dr. Nowell Henner's the associate deputy

674
00:15:57,129 --> 00:15:57,139
dr. Nowell Henner's the associate deputy
 

675
00:15:57,139 --> 00:15:59,620
dr. Nowell Henner's the associate deputy
administrator of NASA and dr. Anthony

676
00:15:59,620 --> 00:15:59,630
administrator of NASA and dr. Anthony
 

677
00:15:59,630 --> 00:16:02,019
administrator of NASA and dr. Anthony
kallio the vice president for management

678
00:16:02,019 --> 00:16:02,029
kallio the vice president for management
 

679
00:16:02,029 --> 00:16:03,790
kallio the vice president for management
and operations at the planning research

680
00:16:03,790 --> 00:16:03,800
and operations at the planning research
 

681
00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,810
and operations at the planning research
corporation in October of 1976 dr.

682
00:16:07,810 --> 00:16:07,820
corporation in October of 1976 dr.
 

683
00:16:07,820 --> 00:16:09,850
corporation in October of 1976 dr.
Henner's the god ur team working a new

684
00:16:09,850 --> 00:16:09,860
Henner's the god ur team working a new
 

685
00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:11,290
Henner's the god ur team working a new
breed of spacecraft called the

686
00:16:11,290 --> 00:16:11,300
breed of spacecraft called the
 

687
00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:14,139
breed of spacecraft called the
multi-mission modular spacecraft came to

688
00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:14,149
multi-mission modular spacecraft came to
 

689
00:16:14,149 --> 00:16:16,629
multi-mission modular spacecraft came to
NASA headquarters to see if they can get

690
00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:16,639
NASA headquarters to see if they can get
 

691
00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:18,790
NASA headquarters to see if they can get
a decision to use the solar maximum

692
00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:18,800
a decision to use the solar maximum
 

693
00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,400
a decision to use the solar maximum
mission with the mms spacecraft what

694
00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:21,410
mission with the mms spacecraft what
 

695
00:16:21,410 --> 00:16:22,960
mission with the mms spacecraft what
were some of the factors that you had to

696
00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:22,970
were some of the factors that you had to
 

697
00:16:22,970 --> 00:16:25,720
were some of the factors that you had to
consider in making that decision touch

698
00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:25,730
consider in making that decision touch
 

699
00:16:25,730 --> 00:16:28,509
consider in making that decision touch
when the goddard folks came down to

700
00:16:28,509 --> 00:16:28,519
when the goddard folks came down to
 

701
00:16:28,519 --> 00:16:30,699
when the goddard folks came down to
headquarters talking about the mms

702
00:16:30,699 --> 00:16:30,709
headquarters talking about the mms
 

703
00:16:30,709 --> 00:16:33,430
headquarters talking about the mms
approach right off the bat it was more

704
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:33,440
approach right off the bat it was more
 

705
00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,740
approach right off the bat it was more
than just the solar max mission they do

706
00:16:35,740 --> 00:16:35,750
than just the solar max mission they do
 

707
00:16:35,750 --> 00:16:38,110
than just the solar max mission they do
realize that I had a potential for lots

708
00:16:38,110 --> 00:16:38,120
realize that I had a potential for lots
 

709
00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,939
realize that I had a potential for lots
of missions and in fact that was one of

710
00:16:39,939 --> 00:16:39,949
of missions and in fact that was one of
 

711
00:16:39,949 --> 00:16:42,340
of missions and in fact that was one of
the benefits being advertised for the

712
00:16:42,340 --> 00:16:42,350
the benefits being advertised for the
 

713
00:16:42,350 --> 00:16:44,650
the benefits being advertised for the
mms approach that you use the same basic

714
00:16:44,650 --> 00:16:44,660
mms approach that you use the same basic
 

715
00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:47,079
mms approach that you use the same basic
design for many missions I'll come back

716
00:16:47,079 --> 00:16:47,089
design for many missions I'll come back
 

717
00:16:47,089 --> 00:16:49,000
design for many missions I'll come back
to that we had though at the time

718
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:49,010
to that we had though at the time
 

719
00:16:49,010 --> 00:16:50,769
to that we had though at the time
something called the low-cost systems

720
00:16:50,769 --> 00:16:50,779
something called the low-cost systems
 

721
00:16:50,779 --> 00:16:53,439
something called the low-cost systems
office under the chief engineer Walt

722
00:16:53,439 --> 00:16:53,449
office under the chief engineer Walt
 

723
00:16:53,449 --> 00:16:56,170
office under the chief engineer Walt
Williams at that time they did the basic

724
00:16:56,170 --> 00:16:56,180
Williams at that time they did the basic
 

725
00:16:56,180 --> 00:16:59,019
Williams at that time they did the basic
economic studies of the mms and

726
00:16:59,019 --> 00:16:59,029
economic studies of the mms and
 

727
00:16:59,029 --> 00:17:01,509
economic studies of the mms and
concluded that if you were to do just

728
00:17:01,509 --> 00:17:01,519
concluded that if you were to do just
 

729
00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,160
concluded that if you were to do just
one you wouldn't really reap the

730
00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,170
one you wouldn't really reap the
 

731
00:17:03,170 --> 00:17:05,049
one you wouldn't really reap the
benefits of it but that if you could buy

732
00:17:05,049 --> 00:17:05,059
benefits of it but that if you could buy
 

733
00:17:05,059 --> 00:17:07,210
benefits of it but that if you could buy
a block of four or five spacecraft

734
00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:07,220
a block of four or five spacecraft
 

735
00:17:07,220 --> 00:17:08,949
a block of four or five spacecraft
that's what you'd really see the return

736
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:08,959
that's what you'd really see the return
 

737
00:17:08,959 --> 00:17:12,610
that's what you'd really see the return
on the investment now we realize that

738
00:17:12,610 --> 00:17:12,620
on the investment now we realize that
 

739
00:17:12,620 --> 00:17:15,340
on the investment now we realize that
the intangibles were going to save money

740
00:17:15,340 --> 00:17:15,350
the intangibles were going to save money
 

741
00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:17,530
the intangibles were going to save money
also not just the acquisition but the

742
00:17:17,530 --> 00:17:17,540
also not just the acquisition but the
 

743
00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:20,289
also not just the acquisition but the
the common design common components the

744
00:17:20,289 --> 00:17:20,299
the common design common components the
 

745
00:17:20,299 --> 00:17:22,809
the common design common components the
sparing philosophy the fact that the

746
00:17:22,809 --> 00:17:22,819
sparing philosophy the fact that the
 

747
00:17:22,819 --> 00:17:24,909
sparing philosophy the fact that the
modular approach the serviceability

748
00:17:24,909 --> 00:17:24,919
modular approach the serviceability
 

749
00:17:24,919 --> 00:17:27,039
modular approach the serviceability
would let you do the testing on the

750
00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:27,049
would let you do the testing on the
 

751
00:17:27,049 --> 00:17:29,500
would let you do the testing on the
ground and a lot easier way than

752
00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:29,510
ground and a lot easier way than
 

753
00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:32,770
ground and a lot easier way than
typically from the inside out but then

754
00:17:32,770 --> 00:17:32,780
typically from the inside out but then
 

755
00:17:32,780 --> 00:17:35,320
typically from the inside out but then
we came up against our friends over at

756
00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:35,330
we came up against our friends over at
 

757
00:17:35,330 --> 00:17:38,190
we came up against our friends over at
OMB the office of management and budget

758
00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:38,200
OMB the office of management and budget
 

759
00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,710
OMB the office of management and budget
they understood the concept and said

760
00:17:41,710 --> 00:17:41,720
they understood the concept and said
 

761
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,020
they understood the concept and said
fine we'll let you go ahead with the

762
00:17:44,020 --> 00:17:44,030
fine we'll let you go ahead with the
 

763
00:17:44,030 --> 00:17:46,419
fine we'll let you go ahead with the
solar max mission and the mms but we're

764
00:17:46,419 --> 00:17:46,429
solar max mission and the mms but we're
 

765
00:17:46,429 --> 00:17:49,419
solar max mission and the mms but we're
not going to approve a block by a five

766
00:17:49,419 --> 00:17:49,429
not going to approve a block by a five
 

767
00:17:49,429 --> 00:17:52,780
not going to approve a block by a five
spacecraft their argument was that we

768
00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:52,790
spacecraft their argument was that we
 

769
00:17:52,790 --> 00:17:55,150
spacecraft their argument was that we
didn't have mission approval for the

770
00:17:55,150 --> 00:17:55,160
didn't have mission approval for the
 

771
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,580
didn't have mission approval for the
other four spacecraft even though we

772
00:17:57,580 --> 00:17:57,590
other four spacecraft even though we
 

773
00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:58,930
other four spacecraft even though we
could say we know things are coming

774
00:17:58,930 --> 00:17:58,940
could say we know things are coming
 

775
00:17:58,940 --> 00:18:01,210
could say we know things are coming
downstream we typically get a new

776
00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:01,220
downstream we typically get a new
 

777
00:18:01,220 --> 00:18:03,370
downstream we typically get a new
mission approved every year that didn't

778
00:18:03,370 --> 00:18:03,380
mission approved every year that didn't
 

779
00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:05,020
mission approved every year that didn't
wash with them so they r approved the

780
00:18:05,020 --> 00:18:05,030
wash with them so they r approved the
 

781
00:18:05,030 --> 00:18:06,500
wash with them so they r approved the
only for the solar

782
00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:06,510
only for the solar
 

783
00:18:06,510 --> 00:18:08,600
only for the solar
max mission at that time and Lance I

784
00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:08,610
max mission at that time and Lance I
 

785
00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:11,090
max mission at that time and Lance I
just had to wait till his time came in

786
00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:11,100
just had to wait till his time came in
 

787
00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:14,180
just had to wait till his time came in
the Landsat subject brings us to dr.

788
00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:14,190
the Landsat subject brings us to dr.
 

789
00:18:14,190 --> 00:18:15,770
the Landsat subject brings us to dr.
Kelly at the time you are working with

790
00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:15,780
Kelly at the time you are working with
 

791
00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:17,960
Kelly at the time you are working with
dr. hunters on this project but we're

792
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:17,970
dr. hunters on this project but we're
 

793
00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:19,850
dr. hunters on this project but we're
not yet the associate administrator for

794
00:18:19,850 --> 00:18:19,860
not yet the associate administrator for
 

795
00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:22,310
not yet the associate administrator for
Earth applications the office that would

796
00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:22,320
Earth applications the office that would
 

797
00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,750
Earth applications the office that would
later have responsibility for that

798
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:23,760
later have responsibility for that
 

799
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,820
later have responsibility for that
spacecraft now where were some of the

800
00:18:25,820 --> 00:18:25,830
spacecraft now where were some of the
 

801
00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:28,130
spacecraft now where were some of the
considerations that you had to make in

802
00:18:28,130 --> 00:18:28,140
considerations that you had to make in
 

803
00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:31,280
considerations that you had to make in
this decision in that timeframe October

804
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:31,290
this decision in that timeframe October
 

805
00:18:31,290 --> 00:18:34,040
this decision in that timeframe October
76 I believe one of the problems that

806
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,050
76 I believe one of the problems that
 

807
00:18:34,050 --> 00:18:36,050
76 I believe one of the problems that
was going on with a another budget issue

808
00:18:36,050 --> 00:18:36,060
was going on with a another budget issue
 

809
00:18:36,060 --> 00:18:38,780
was going on with a another budget issue
and even though all of us trained by

810
00:18:38,780 --> 00:18:38,790
and even though all of us trained by
 

811
00:18:38,790 --> 00:18:41,360
and even though all of us trained by
NASA or know the importance of balancing

812
00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:41,370
NASA or know the importance of balancing
 

813
00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:43,850
NASA or know the importance of balancing
performance cost and schedule a Landsat

814
00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:43,860
performance cost and schedule a Landsat
 

815
00:18:43,860 --> 00:18:47,090
performance cost and schedule a Landsat
was having a difficult time with the

816
00:18:47,090 --> 00:18:47,100
was having a difficult time with the
 

817
00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,470
was having a difficult time with the
office of management and budget because

818
00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:48,480
office of management and budget because
 

819
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,060
office of management and budget because
the project was not approved the way it

820
00:18:53,060 --> 00:18:53,070
the project was not approved the way it
 

821
00:18:53,070 --> 00:18:55,100
the project was not approved the way it
was originally proposed by NASA that was

822
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:55,110
was originally proposed by NASA that was
 

823
00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:57,560
was originally proposed by NASA that was
to carry two instruments a multispectral

824
00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:57,570
to carry two instruments a multispectral
 

825
00:18:57,570 --> 00:18:59,510
to carry two instruments a multispectral
scanner which was the old instrument and

826
00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:59,520
scanner which was the old instrument and
 

827
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,180
scanner which was the old instrument and
a new thematic mapper it was believed at

828
00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:02,190
a new thematic mapper it was believed at
 

829
00:19:02,190 --> 00:19:03,620
a new thematic mapper it was believed at
that point in time that if it was an

830
00:19:03,620 --> 00:19:03,630
that point in time that if it was an
 

831
00:19:03,630 --> 00:19:06,560
that point in time that if it was an
experimental program that the thematic

832
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:06,570
experimental program that the thematic
 

833
00:19:06,570 --> 00:19:08,390
experimental program that the thematic
mapper was the only instrument was that

834
00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:08,400
mapper was the only instrument was that
 

835
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,490
mapper was the only instrument was that
was needed and the multispectral scanner

836
00:19:10,490 --> 00:19:10,500
was needed and the multispectral scanner
 

837
00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:12,950
was needed and the multispectral scanner
was not needed so there was the project

838
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:12,960
was not needed so there was the project
 

839
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,520
was not needed so there was the project
was in the throes of being redefined as

840
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:16,530
was in the throes of being redefined as
 

841
00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:19,100
was in the throes of being redefined as
to between Earth NASA and the office of

842
00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:19,110
to between Earth NASA and the office of
 

843
00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:21,200
to between Earth NASA and the office of
management budget so it was unclear what

844
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:21,210
management budget so it was unclear what
 

845
00:19:21,210 --> 00:19:23,570
management budget so it was unclear what
the spacecraft design would be secondly

846
00:19:23,570 --> 00:19:23,580
the spacecraft design would be secondly
 

847
00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:27,110
the spacecraft design would be secondly
if we had to go to such a design for any

848
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:27,120
if we had to go to such a design for any
 

849
00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:28,490
if we had to go to such a design for any
spacecraft whether it was a space

850
00:19:28,490 --> 00:19:28,500
spacecraft whether it was a space
 

851
00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:30,890
spacecraft whether it was a space
science or an application spacecraft it

852
00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:30,900
science or an application spacecraft it
 

853
00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:32,870
science or an application spacecraft it
would have to be dual compatible because

854
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:32,880
would have to be dual compatible because
 

855
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,850
would have to be dual compatible because
if it were to fly on the shuttle

856
00:19:34,850 --> 00:19:34,860
if it were to fly on the shuttle
 

857
00:19:34,860 --> 00:19:37,370
if it were to fly on the shuttle
ultimately it would also have to in the

858
00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:37,380
ultimately it would also have to in the
 

859
00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:40,610
ultimately it would also have to in the
in the early years fly on a expendable

860
00:19:40,610 --> 00:19:40,620
in the early years fly on a expendable
 

861
00:19:40,620 --> 00:19:42,680
in the early years fly on a expendable
launch vehicle and then finally for

862
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:42,690
launch vehicle and then finally for
 

863
00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:44,360
launch vehicle and then finally for
those who were interested in polar

864
00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:44,370
those who were interested in polar
 

865
00:19:44,370 --> 00:19:46,220
those who were interested in polar
orbits we would have to fly out of the

866
00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:46,230
orbits we would have to fly out of the
 

867
00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:47,720
orbits we would have to fly out of the
Western test range that it'd have to be

868
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:47,730
Western test range that it'd have to be
 

869
00:19:47,730 --> 00:19:50,270
Western test range that it'd have to be
compatibility with that facility so this

870
00:19:50,270 --> 00:19:50,280
compatibility with that facility so this
 

871
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,430
compatibility with that facility so this
presented a number of uncertainties for

872
00:19:52,430 --> 00:19:52,440
presented a number of uncertainties for
 

873
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,040
presented a number of uncertainties for
a whole series and of a spacecraft that

874
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,050
a whole series and of a spacecraft that
 

875
00:19:55,050 --> 00:19:56,780
a whole series and of a spacecraft that
were being considered at that period of

876
00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:56,790
were being considered at that period of
 

877
00:19:56,790 --> 00:19:59,900
were being considered at that period of
time well in summary considering that

878
00:19:59,900 --> 00:19:59,910
time well in summary considering that
 

879
00:19:59,910 --> 00:20:02,690
time well in summary considering that
whole time frame from 76 on to when

880
00:20:02,690 --> 00:20:02,700
whole time frame from 76 on to when
 

881
00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:05,960
whole time frame from 76 on to when
solar max flu what kind of lessons

882
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:05,970
solar max flu what kind of lessons
 

883
00:20:05,970 --> 00:20:08,120
solar max flu what kind of lessons
learned can you share with the current

884
00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:08,130
learned can you share with the current
 

885
00:20:08,130 --> 00:20:11,000
learned can you share with the current
and new managers within NASA well the

886
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,010
and new managers within NASA well the
 

887
00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:14,790
and new managers within NASA well the
gutter team back in 77 as they have

888
00:20:14,790 --> 00:20:14,800
gutter team back in 77 as they have
 

889
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,550
gutter team back in 77 as they have
in the past continue to be had a great

890
00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:17,560
in the past continue to be had a great
 

891
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,880
in the past continue to be had a great
ideas and the idea of the multi-mission

892
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:20,890
ideas and the idea of the multi-mission
 

893
00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:23,870
ideas and the idea of the multi-mission
spacecraft was a very creative one and

894
00:20:23,870 --> 00:20:23,880
spacecraft was a very creative one and
 

895
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,250
spacecraft was a very creative one and
the second part of it was they were very

896
00:20:26,250 --> 00:20:26,260
the second part of it was they were very
 

897
00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:28,370
the second part of it was they were very
persistent with that whole notion of

898
00:20:28,370 --> 00:20:28,380
persistent with that whole notion of
 

899
00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:30,630
persistent with that whole notion of
getting the multi-mission spacecraft

900
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:30,640
getting the multi-mission spacecraft
 

901
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,660
getting the multi-mission spacecraft
phone I was not a supporter at the time

902
00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:33,670
phone I was not a supporter at the time
 

903
00:20:33,670 --> 00:20:36,750
phone I was not a supporter at the time
and it turned out through their bright

904
00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:36,760
and it turned out through their bright
 

905
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,860
and it turned out through their bright
ideas and their persistence or tenacity

906
00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:39,870
ideas and their persistence or tenacity
 

907
00:20:39,870 --> 00:20:42,660
ideas and their persistence or tenacity
persevered and we got to see in the

908
00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:42,670
persevered and we got to see in the
 

909
00:20:42,670 --> 00:20:44,280
persevered and we got to see in the
nineteen eighty-four timeframe for the

910
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:44,290
nineteen eighty-four timeframe for the
 

911
00:20:44,290 --> 00:20:46,590
nineteen eighty-four timeframe for the
recovery of a solar max mission and its

912
00:20:46,590 --> 00:20:46,600
recovery of a solar max mission and its
 

913
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,080
recovery of a solar max mission and its
retrofitting and placing it back in the

914
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,090
retrofitting and placing it back in the
 

915
00:20:49,090 --> 00:20:51,390
retrofitting and placing it back in the
service that the concept that they had a

916
00:20:51,390 --> 00:20:51,400
service that the concept that they had a
 

917
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,120
service that the concept that they had a
good concept well thought out well

918
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:54,130
good concept well thought out well
 

919
00:20:54,130 --> 00:20:56,610
good concept well thought out well
engineered with the persistence of that

920
00:20:56,610 --> 00:20:56,620
engineered with the persistence of that
 

921
00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:59,250
engineered with the persistence of that
team is leading the way for the future

922
00:20:59,250 --> 00:20:59,260
team is leading the way for the future
 

923
00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:01,380
team is leading the way for the future
to the space station in this shuttle so

924
00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:01,390
to the space station in this shuttle so
 

925
00:21:01,390 --> 00:21:03,810
to the space station in this shuttle so
it was a good idea and with good ideas

926
00:21:03,810 --> 00:21:03,820
it was a good idea and with good ideas
 

927
00:21:03,820 --> 00:21:05,520
it was a good idea and with good ideas
staying with that I think is an

928
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:05,530
staying with that I think is an
 

929
00:21:05,530 --> 00:21:08,130
staying with that I think is an
important point for NASA engineers to

930
00:21:08,130 --> 00:21:08,140
important point for NASA engineers to
 

931
00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:10,740
important point for NASA engineers to
consider what doctor enters what kind of

932
00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:10,750
consider what doctor enters what kind of
 

933
00:21:10,750 --> 00:21:12,720
consider what doctor enters what kind of
summary lessons learned would you like

934
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:12,730
summary lessons learned would you like
 

935
00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:15,570
summary lessons learned would you like
to pass on to the new managers Dutch I

936
00:21:15,570 --> 00:21:15,580
to pass on to the new managers Dutch I
 

937
00:21:15,580 --> 00:21:17,550
to pass on to the new managers Dutch I
think there are a number there Tony

938
00:21:17,550 --> 00:21:17,560
think there are a number there Tony
 

939
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,700
think there are a number there Tony
touched on on several of them clearly

940
00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:20,710
touched on on several of them clearly
 

941
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:23,970
touched on on several of them clearly
having a solid technical product to sell

942
00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:23,980
having a solid technical product to sell
 

943
00:21:23,980 --> 00:21:26,910
having a solid technical product to sell
has to be number one without that forget

944
00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:26,920
has to be number one without that forget
 

945
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,820
has to be number one without that forget
it then once you get past that you've

946
00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:29,830
it then once you get past that you've
 

947
00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:32,730
it then once you get past that you've
got to have a salesman and I'll put it

948
00:21:32,730 --> 00:21:32,740
got to have a salesman and I'll put it
 

949
00:21:32,740 --> 00:21:34,680
got to have a salesman and I'll put it
that way you're out there in the field

950
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:34,690
that way you're out there in the field
 

951
00:21:34,690 --> 00:21:36,360
that way you're out there in the field
you've got to come in and convince a

952
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:36,370
you've got to come in and convince a
 

953
00:21:36,370 --> 00:21:39,810
you've got to come in and convince a
range of people here at headquarters and

954
00:21:39,810 --> 00:21:39,820
range of people here at headquarters and
 

955
00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:41,520
range of people here at headquarters and
organizations first you've got the

956
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:41,530
organizations first you've got the
 

957
00:21:41,530 --> 00:21:43,860
organizations first you've got the
program office I say the program office

958
00:21:43,860 --> 00:21:43,870
program office I say the program office
 

959
00:21:43,870 --> 00:21:45,930
program office I say the program office
that's your first customer but then on

960
00:21:45,930 --> 00:21:45,940
that's your first customer but then on
 

961
00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:47,550
that's your first customer but then on
something like the mms which went across

962
00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:47,560
something like the mms which went across
 

963
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,200
something like the mms which went across
many program officers you had to touch

964
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,210
many program officers you had to touch
 

965
00:21:49,210 --> 00:21:51,210
many program officers you had to touch
base with many and get people to

966
00:21:51,210 --> 00:21:51,220
base with many and get people to
 

967
00:21:51,220 --> 00:21:53,970
base with many and get people to
understand that there was a payoff and

968
00:21:53,970 --> 00:21:53,980
understand that there was a payoff and
 

969
00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:55,700
understand that there was a payoff and
coming together on something like the

970
00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:55,710
coming together on something like the
 

971
00:21:55,710 --> 00:21:59,130
coming together on something like the
mms then you had to work the controllers

972
00:21:59,130 --> 00:21:59,140
mms then you had to work the controllers
 

973
00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:01,050
mms then you had to work the controllers
office you had to work the low-cost

974
00:22:01,050 --> 00:22:01,060
office you had to work the low-cost
 

975
00:22:01,060 --> 00:22:02,700
office you had to work the low-cost
systems office and you had to get over

976
00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:02,710
systems office and you had to get over
 

977
00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:05,130
systems office and you had to get over
and work OMB so you've got to understand

978
00:22:05,130 --> 00:22:05,140
and work OMB so you've got to understand
 

979
00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:06,720
and work OMB so you've got to understand
when you're out in the field that you

980
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:06,730
when you're out in the field that you
 

981
00:22:06,730 --> 00:22:08,580
when you're out in the field that you
can't go to one point head coach but

982
00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:08,590
can't go to one point head coach but
 

983
00:22:08,590 --> 00:22:10,550
can't go to one point head coach but
you've gotta play across the board and

984
00:22:10,550 --> 00:22:10,560
you've gotta play across the board and
 

985
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,960
you've gotta play across the board and
aggregate the support for what you're

986
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:12,970
aggregate the support for what you're
 

987
00:22:12,970 --> 00:22:17,700
aggregate the support for what you're
trying to do Tony mentioned being

988
00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:17,710
trying to do Tony mentioned being
 

989
00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:20,880
trying to do Tony mentioned being
tenacious in this project I think you've

990
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:20,890
tenacious in this project I think you've
 

991
00:22:20,890 --> 00:22:23,940
tenacious in this project I think you've
seen all mostly the ultimate tenacious

992
00:22:23,940 --> 00:22:23,950
seen all mostly the ultimate tenacious
 

993
00:22:23,950 --> 00:22:25,990
seen all mostly the ultimate tenacious
yes a leader

994
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:26,000
yes a leader
 

995
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,400
yes a leader
and it's epi we've got that sepia is a

996
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:30,410
and it's epi we've got that sepia is a
 

997
00:22:30,410 --> 00:22:32,740
and it's epi we've got that sepia is a
bulldog I could still feel that Keith

998
00:22:32,740 --> 00:22:32,750
bulldog I could still feel that Keith
 

999
00:22:32,750 --> 00:22:34,360
bulldog I could still feel that Keith
marks up here in the neck he doesn't

1000
00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:34,370
marks up here in the neck he doesn't
 

1001
00:22:34,370 --> 00:22:38,290
marks up here in the neck he doesn't
like old sepi so believed that what he

1002
00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:38,300
like old sepi so believed that what he
 

1003
00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:40,750
like old sepi so believed that what he
was doing was right after spending a

1004
00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:40,760
was doing was right after spending a
 

1005
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,490
was doing was right after spending a
while with him he just fell in said yeah

1006
00:22:42,490 --> 00:22:42,500
while with him he just fell in said yeah
 

1007
00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:45,070
while with him he just fell in said yeah
he's right the other thing he did of

1008
00:22:45,070 --> 00:22:45,080
he's right the other thing he did of
 

1009
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,810
he's right the other thing he did of
course and his team was that they

1010
00:22:46,810 --> 00:22:46,820
course and his team was that they
 

1011
00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:49,360
course and his team was that they
produced they promised a certain product

1012
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:49,370
produced they promised a certain product
 

1013
00:22:49,370 --> 00:22:51,730
produced they promised a certain product
on a schedule and they brought it in and

1014
00:22:51,730 --> 00:22:51,740
on a schedule and they brought it in and
 

1015
00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:53,770
on a schedule and they brought it in and
we're seeing that now through the rest

1016
00:22:53,770 --> 00:22:53,780
we're seeing that now through the rest
 

1017
00:22:53,780 --> 00:22:55,060
we're seeing that now through the rest
of the program even though we started

1018
00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:55,070
of the program even though we started
 

1019
00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:57,250
of the program even though we started
with just solarmax it did get used for

1020
00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:57,260
with just solarmax it did get used for
 

1021
00:22:57,260 --> 00:23:00,340
with just solarmax it did get used for
landsat it became used on the upper

1022
00:23:00,340 --> 00:23:00,350
landsat it became used on the upper
 

1023
00:23:00,350 --> 00:23:02,620
landsat it became used on the upper
atmosphere research satellite there are

1024
00:23:02,620 --> 00:23:02,630
atmosphere research satellite there are
 

1025
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:04,540
atmosphere research satellite there are
components of it modules on the gamma

1026
00:23:04,540 --> 00:23:04,550
components of it modules on the gamma
 

1027
00:23:04,550 --> 00:23:06,010
components of it modules on the gamma
ray observatory and there are pieces of

1028
00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:06,020
ray observatory and there are pieces of
 

1029
00:23:06,020 --> 00:23:08,500
ray observatory and there are pieces of
it in the space telescope and it really

1030
00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:08,510
it in the space telescope and it really
 

1031
00:23:08,510 --> 00:23:10,270
it in the space telescope and it really
has formed the basis for a lot of our

1032
00:23:10,270 --> 00:23:10,280
has formed the basis for a lot of our
 

1033
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,800
has formed the basis for a lot of our
thinking on the polar platform for the

1034
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:11,810
thinking on the polar platform for the
 

1035
00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:15,850
thinking on the polar platform for the
space station there's one last thing the

1036
00:23:15,850 --> 00:23:15,860
space station there's one last thing the
 

1037
00:23:15,860 --> 00:23:18,550
space station there's one last thing the
Goddard management at the time came

1038
00:23:18,550 --> 00:23:18,560
Goddard management at the time came
 

1039
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,200
Goddard management at the time came
Seppi a lot of leeway in the project

1040
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:20,210
Seppi a lot of leeway in the project
 

1041
00:23:20,210 --> 00:23:22,810
Seppi a lot of leeway in the project
they believed in and said go to it so it

1042
00:23:22,810 --> 00:23:22,820
they believed in and said go to it so it
 

1043
00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:24,850
they believed in and said go to it so it
was an environment which encouraged that

1044
00:23:24,850 --> 00:23:24,860
was an environment which encouraged that
 

1045
00:23:24,860 --> 00:23:26,410
was an environment which encouraged that
innovation and that's something we've

1046
00:23:26,410 --> 00:23:26,420
innovation and that's something we've
 

1047
00:23:26,420 --> 00:23:28,000
innovation and that's something we've
got to be sure we keep up so these

1048
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,010
got to be sure we keep up so these
 

1049
00:23:28,010 --> 00:23:29,890
got to be sure we keep up so these
bright ideas can surface in the system

1050
00:23:29,890 --> 00:23:29,900
bright ideas can surface in the system
 

1051
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:32,440
bright ideas can surface in the system
get through it gets old thank you very

1052
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:32,450
get through it gets old thank you very
 

1053
00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:34,930
get through it gets old thank you very
much dr. Henner's and dr. Kelly no i'm

1054
00:23:34,930 --> 00:23:34,940
much dr. Henner's and dr. Kelly no i'm
 

1055
00:23:34,940 --> 00:23:37,330
much dr. Henner's and dr. Kelly no i'm
sure that the nasa work for us and

1056
00:23:37,330 --> 00:23:37,340
sure that the nasa work for us and
 

1057
00:23:37,340 --> 00:23:40,090
sure that the nasa work for us and
specially the young NASA managers have a

1058
00:23:40,090 --> 00:23:40,100
specially the young NASA managers have a
 

1059
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:42,190
specially the young NASA managers have a
better appreciation for how management

1060
00:23:42,190 --> 00:23:42,200
better appreciation for how management
 

1061
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,810
better appreciation for how management
decisions are made at the associate

1062
00:23:43,810 --> 00:23:43,820
decisions are made at the associate
 

1063
00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:45,280
decisions are made at the associate
administrator level thank you very much

1064
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:45,290
administrator level thank you very much
 

1065
00:23:45,290 --> 00:23:47,350
administrator level thank you very much
and now let's go to Goddard Space Flight

1066
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:47,360
and now let's go to Goddard Space Flight
 

1067
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,630
and now let's go to Goddard Space Flight
Center and see the multi-mission modular

1068
00:23:49,630 --> 00:23:49,640
Center and see the multi-mission modular
 

1069
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,560
Center and see the multi-mission modular
spacecraft well semi what was the impact

1070
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:53,570
spacecraft well semi what was the impact
 

1071
00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:55,570
spacecraft well semi what was the impact
of the failure of the solar max

1072
00:23:55,570 --> 00:23:55,580
of the failure of the solar max
 

1073
00:23:55,580 --> 00:23:59,980
of the failure of the solar max
spacecraft on your program well looking

1074
00:23:59,980 --> 00:23:59,990
spacecraft on your program well looking
 

1075
00:23:59,990 --> 00:24:04,090
spacecraft on your program well looking
back in time I feel that the impact of

1076
00:24:04,090 --> 00:24:04,100
back in time I feel that the impact of
 

1077
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:07,540
back in time I feel that the impact of
solar max failure in fact the fine

1078
00:24:07,540 --> 00:24:07,550
solar max failure in fact the fine
 

1079
00:24:07,550 --> 00:24:09,550
solar max failure in fact the fine
pointing failure of the attitude control

1080
00:24:09,550 --> 00:24:09,560
pointing failure of the attitude control
 

1081
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,170
pointing failure of the attitude control
subsystem represented both a tragedy in

1082
00:24:14,170 --> 00:24:14,180
subsystem represented both a tragedy in
 

1083
00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:18,370
subsystem represented both a tragedy in
a triumph a tragedy in the sense that we

1084
00:24:18,370 --> 00:24:18,380
a triumph a tragedy in the sense that we
 

1085
00:24:18,380 --> 00:24:21,790
a triumph a tragedy in the sense that we
launched the spacecraft with two years

1086
00:24:21,790 --> 00:24:21,800
launched the spacecraft with two years
 

1087
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760
launched the spacecraft with two years
of observation objectives and after the

1088
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:24,770
of observation objectives and after the
 

1089
00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:27,610
of observation objectives and after the
first year we lost our fine pointing we

1090
00:24:27,610 --> 00:24:27,620
first year we lost our fine pointing we
 

1091
00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:29,230
first year we lost our fine pointing we
had all the solar physicists and

1092
00:24:29,230 --> 00:24:29,240
had all the solar physicists and
 

1093
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,600
had all the solar physicists and
ground-based observatories all over the

1094
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:31,610
ground-based observatories all over the
 

1095
00:24:31,610 --> 00:24:33,850
ground-based observatories all over the
world making simultaneous observations

1096
00:24:33,850 --> 00:24:33,860
world making simultaneous observations
 

1097
00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:37,419
world making simultaneous observations
with the solar max physicist here at

1098
00:24:37,419 --> 00:24:37,429
with the solar max physicist here at
 

1099
00:24:37,429 --> 00:24:39,010
with the solar max physicist here at
Goddard to

1100
00:24:39,010 --> 00:24:39,020
Goddard to
 

1101
00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:41,590
Goddard to
to uncover some of the big secrets of

1102
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:41,600
to uncover some of the big secrets of
 

1103
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,350
to uncover some of the big secrets of
solar flare theory when we lost by

1104
00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:44,360
solar flare theory when we lost by
 

1105
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,030
solar flare theory when we lost by
appointing we lost much of that

1106
00:24:46,030 --> 00:24:46,040
appointing we lost much of that
 

1107
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,820
appointing we lost much of that
capability and I think that was

1108
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:48,830
capability and I think that was
 

1109
00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:52,380
capability and I think that was
certainly an adversity on the other hand

1110
00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:52,390
certainly an adversity on the other hand
 

1111
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:55,210
certainly an adversity on the other hand
by virtue of the fact that we have

1112
00:24:55,210 --> 00:24:55,220
by virtue of the fact that we have
 

1113
00:24:55,220 --> 00:24:57,310
by virtue of the fact that we have
designed the spacecraft which in fact

1114
00:24:57,310 --> 00:24:57,320
designed the spacecraft which in fact
 

1115
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,190
designed the spacecraft which in fact
was serviceable on orbit since we had

1116
00:25:00,190 --> 00:25:00,200
was serviceable on orbit since we had
 

1117
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,530
was serviceable on orbit since we had
built this flight support system to go

1118
00:25:02,530 --> 00:25:02,540
built this flight support system to go
 

1119
00:25:02,540 --> 00:25:05,200
built this flight support system to go
up and take care of that problem and

1120
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,210
up and take care of that problem and
 

1121
00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:07,720
up and take care of that problem and
since we had a desire as an agency to

1122
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:07,730
since we had a desire as an agency to
 

1123
00:25:07,730 --> 00:25:12,310
since we had a desire as an agency to
basically put our faith in the

1124
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:12,320
basically put our faith in the
 

1125
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,680
basically put our faith in the
transportation system which we said

1126
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:14,690
transportation system which we said
 

1127
00:25:14,690 --> 00:25:17,890
transportation system which we said
could do repair and should do repair of

1128
00:25:17,890 --> 00:25:17,900
could do repair and should do repair of
 

1129
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:20,560
could do repair and should do repair of
satellites in orbit we put all those

1130
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:20,570
satellites in orbit we put all those
 

1131
00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:24,960
satellites in orbit we put all those
aspects together just doing going for it

1132
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:24,970
aspects together just doing going for it
 

1133
00:25:24,970 --> 00:25:29,530
aspects together just doing going for it
represented a confidence represented an

1134
00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:29,540
represented a confidence represented an
 

1135
00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:32,290
represented a confidence represented an
objective for the agency of meeting its

1136
00:25:32,290 --> 00:25:32,300
objective for the agency of meeting its
 

1137
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:35,110
objective for the agency of meeting its
goal of understanding where the

1138
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:35,120
goal of understanding where the
 

1139
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,170
goal of understanding where the
development of resources and what their

1140
00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:38,180
development of resources and what their
 

1141
00:25:38,180 --> 00:25:39,880
development of resources and what their
intention was in the first place and

1142
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:39,890
intention was in the first place and
 

1143
00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:42,370
intention was in the first place and
bringing all elements of the agency

1144
00:25:42,370 --> 00:25:42,380
bringing all elements of the agency
 

1145
00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:43,740
bringing all elements of the agency
together the manned spaceflight

1146
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:43,750
together the manned spaceflight
 

1147
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:48,780
together the manned spaceflight
transportation element the scientist the

1148
00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:48,790
transportation element the scientist the
 

1149
00:25:48,790 --> 00:25:50,920
transportation element the scientist the
observatory builders bringing them all

1150
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:50,930
observatory builders bringing them all
 

1151
00:25:50,930 --> 00:25:53,290
observatory builders bringing them all
together and doing a very successful

1152
00:25:53,290 --> 00:25:53,300
together and doing a very successful
 

1153
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:55,600
together and doing a very successful
repair mission represented a significant

1154
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:55,610
repair mission represented a significant
 

1155
00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:58,360
repair mission represented a significant
triumph and all that one has to do is

1156
00:25:58,360 --> 00:25:58,370
triumph and all that one has to do is
 

1157
00:25:58,370 --> 00:26:00,640
triumph and all that one has to do is
look at what happened in the next 12

1158
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:00,650
look at what happened in the next 12
 

1159
00:26:00,650 --> 00:26:03,400
look at what happened in the next 12
months after the successful solar max

1160
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:03,410
months after the successful solar max
 

1161
00:26:03,410 --> 00:26:06,130
months after the successful solar max
repair mission first of all we did

1162
00:26:06,130 --> 00:26:06,140
repair mission first of all we did
 

1163
00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:09,370
repair mission first of all we did
retrieved two spacecrafts Westar and

1164
00:26:09,370 --> 00:26:09,380
retrieved two spacecrafts Westar and
 

1165
00:26:09,380 --> 00:26:11,770
retrieved two spacecrafts Westar and
palapa both of which are going to be

1166
00:26:11,770 --> 00:26:11,780
palapa both of which are going to be
 

1167
00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:17,050
palapa both of which are going to be
relaunched next we repaired sin com4 and

1168
00:26:17,050 --> 00:26:17,060
relaunched next we repaired sin com4 and
 

1169
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:19,570
relaunched next we repaired sin com4 and
put it up into orbit into its

1170
00:26:19,570 --> 00:26:19,580
put it up into orbit into its
 

1171
00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:22,390
put it up into orbit into its
operational regime or it's working fine

1172
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:22,400
operational regime or it's working fine
 

1173
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,080
operational regime or it's working fine
to this day solar max which was repaired

1174
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,090
to this day solar max which was repaired
 

1175
00:26:26,090 --> 00:26:29,680
to this day solar max which was repaired
in 1984 is working fine and still

1176
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:29,690
in 1984 is working fine and still
 

1177
00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:31,870
in 1984 is working fine and still
collecting very valuable scientific data

1178
00:26:31,870 --> 00:26:31,880
collecting very valuable scientific data
 

1179
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,720
collecting very valuable scientific data
and in fact for the last four and a half

1180
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:34,730
and in fact for the last four and a half
 

1181
00:26:34,730 --> 00:26:38,290
and in fact for the last four and a half
to five years he has been operating fine

1182
00:26:38,290 --> 00:26:38,300
to five years he has been operating fine
 

1183
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:40,000
to five years he has been operating fine
and being able to collect some

1184
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,010
and being able to collect some
 

1185
00:26:40,010 --> 00:26:42,370
and being able to collect some
significant scientific data as the solar

1186
00:26:42,370 --> 00:26:42,380
significant scientific data as the solar
 

1187
00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:45,100
significant scientific data as the solar
cycle is going back up and I think you

1188
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:45,110
cycle is going back up and I think you
 

1189
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:47,620
cycle is going back up and I think you
put all those aspects together it

1190
00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:47,630
put all those aspects together it
 

1191
00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:50,680
put all those aspects together it
represented this this triumph aspect as

1192
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:50,690
represented this this triumph aspect as
 

1193
00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:54,850
represented this this triumph aspect as
well as the adversity ass

1194
00:26:54,850 --> 00:26:54,860

 

1195
00:26:54,860 --> 00:26:57,050

what's that be looking back to nineteen

1196
00:26:57,050 --> 00:26:57,060
what's that be looking back to nineteen
 

1197
00:26:57,060 --> 00:26:59,150
what's that be looking back to nineteen
seventy when your challenge was to get

1198
00:26:59,150 --> 00:26:59,160
seventy when your challenge was to get
 

1199
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,060
seventy when your challenge was to get
more science for less cost what advice

1200
00:27:02,060 --> 00:27:02,070
more science for less cost what advice
 

1201
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:05,750
more science for less cost what advice
can you give your new project managers

1202
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:05,760
can you give your new project managers
 

1203
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,630
can you give your new project managers
and what have you learned well I think

1204
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:08,640
and what have you learned well I think
 

1205
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,460
and what have you learned well I think
in terms of what have we learned and

1206
00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:10,470
in terms of what have we learned and
 

1207
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:12,460
in terms of what have we learned and
what the accomplishments have been

1208
00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:12,470
what the accomplishments have been
 

1209
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:14,930
what the accomplishments have been
looking back and looking first of all

1210
00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:14,940
looking back and looking first of all
 

1211
00:27:14,940 --> 00:27:18,260
looking back and looking first of all
here at UA RS which represents the sixth

1212
00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:18,270
here at UA RS which represents the sixth
 

1213
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:20,870
here at UA RS which represents the sixth
or seventh production spacecraft common

1214
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:20,880
or seventh production spacecraft common
 

1215
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,660
or seventh production spacecraft common
to several different missions and even

1216
00:27:23,660 --> 00:27:23,670
to several different missions and even
 

1217
00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:25,490
to several different missions and even
more importantly the fact that this

1218
00:27:25,490 --> 00:27:25,500
more importantly the fact that this
 

1219
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:27,710
more importantly the fact that this
particular ACS subsystem was the one

1220
00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:27,720
particular ACS subsystem was the one
 

1221
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,340
particular ACS subsystem was the one
that flew for four years on solar max

1222
00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:30,350
that flew for four years on solar max
 

1223
00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:32,920
that flew for four years on solar max
was brought back from space and

1224
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:32,930
was brought back from space and
 

1225
00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:35,090
was brought back from space and
refurbished twenty-five to thirty

1226
00:27:35,090 --> 00:27:35,100
refurbished twenty-five to thirty
 

1227
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,710
refurbished twenty-five to thirty
percent of the cost of a new spacecraft

1228
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:36,720
percent of the cost of a new spacecraft
 

1229
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,260
percent of the cost of a new spacecraft
and now we'll be flying again on a

1230
00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:39,270
and now we'll be flying again on a
 

1231
00:27:39,270 --> 00:27:41,360
and now we'll be flying again on a
spacecraft almost three times more

1232
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:41,370
spacecraft almost three times more
 

1233
00:27:41,370 --> 00:27:44,000
spacecraft almost three times more
complicated and expensive I think that

1234
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,010
complicated and expensive I think that
 

1235
00:27:44,010 --> 00:27:46,010
complicated and expensive I think that
that basically is indicative of the fact

1236
00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:46,020
that basically is indicative of the fact
 

1237
00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:49,040
that basically is indicative of the fact
that we have accomplished the goal of

1238
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,050
that we have accomplished the goal of
 

1239
00:27:49,050 --> 00:27:51,830
that we have accomplished the goal of
reducing cost of future missions by

1240
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:51,840
reducing cost of future missions by
 

1241
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,960
reducing cost of future missions by
virtue of our being able to build and

1242
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:53,970
virtue of our being able to build and
 

1243
00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:56,660
virtue of our being able to build and
serve as common modular spacecrafts on

1244
00:27:56,660 --> 00:27:56,670
serve as common modular spacecrafts on
 

1245
00:27:56,670 --> 00:28:00,680
serve as common modular spacecrafts on
the ground and and relaunch and maintain

1246
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:00,690
the ground and and relaunch and maintain
 

1247
00:28:00,690 --> 00:28:04,910
the ground and and relaunch and maintain
some form of a standard spacecraft

1248
00:28:04,910 --> 00:28:04,920
some form of a standard spacecraft
 

1249
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,210
some form of a standard spacecraft
production base and I think that that I

1250
00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:08,220
production base and I think that that I
 

1251
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:09,800
production base and I think that that I
feel very good about that accomplishment

1252
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:09,810
feel very good about that accomplishment
 

1253
00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:12,920
feel very good about that accomplishment
I think as far as the the lessons

1254
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:12,930
I think as far as the the lessons
 

1255
00:28:12,930 --> 00:28:15,920
I think as far as the the lessons
learned for future project managers the

1256
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:15,930
learned for future project managers the
 

1257
00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:19,640
learned for future project managers the
most fundamental reality today is that

1258
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:19,650
most fundamental reality today is that
 

1259
00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:21,650
most fundamental reality today is that
the cost pressures of the 80s and the

1260
00:28:21,650 --> 00:28:21,660
the cost pressures of the 80s and the
 

1261
00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:24,260
the cost pressures of the 80s and the
90s are even more severe than the cost

1262
00:28:24,260 --> 00:28:24,270
90s are even more severe than the cost
 

1263
00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:27,320
90s are even more severe than the cost
pressures of the 70s and for a project

1264
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:27,330
pressures of the 70s and for a project
 

1265
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:31,040
pressures of the 70s and for a project
manager to effectively be able to cost

1266
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,050
manager to effectively be able to cost
 

1267
00:28:31,050 --> 00:28:34,040
manager to effectively be able to cost
manage and schedule manager program he's

1268
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,050
manage and schedule manager program he's
 

1269
00:28:34,050 --> 00:28:37,370
manage and schedule manager program he's
got to be dogmatically pragmatic he's

1270
00:28:37,370 --> 00:28:37,380
got to be dogmatically pragmatic he's
 

1271
00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:41,660
got to be dogmatically pragmatic he's
got to make hard decisions on trade-offs

1272
00:28:41,660 --> 00:28:41,670
got to make hard decisions on trade-offs
 

1273
00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:43,880
got to make hard decisions on trade-offs
between cost and performance and

1274
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:43,890
between cost and performance and
 

1275
00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:47,510
between cost and performance and
schedule and those trade-offs have to be

1276
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:47,520
schedule and those trade-offs have to be
 

1277
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,690
schedule and those trade-offs have to be
made in a rather timely fashion today

1278
00:28:49,690 --> 00:28:49,700
made in a rather timely fashion today
 

1279
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,610
made in a rather timely fashion today
much more so I believed and they were in

1280
00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:52,620
much more so I believed and they were in
 

1281
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:56,720
much more so I believed and they were in
a period of the 70s I think that by the

1282
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:56,730
a period of the 70s I think that by the
 

1283
00:28:56,730 --> 00:29:00,130
a period of the 70s I think that by the
same token that project manager today

1284
00:29:00,130 --> 00:29:00,140
same token that project manager today
 

1285
00:29:00,140 --> 00:29:04,340
same token that project manager today
has to be an astute philosophical leader

1286
00:29:04,340 --> 00:29:04,350
has to be an astute philosophical leader
 

1287
00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:06,259
has to be an astute philosophical leader
he cannot be afraid

1288
00:29:06,259 --> 00:29:06,269
he cannot be afraid
 

1289
00:29:06,269 --> 00:29:09,079
he cannot be afraid
of basically grabbing the cutting edge

1290
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:09,089
of basically grabbing the cutting edge
 

1291
00:29:09,089 --> 00:29:11,269
of basically grabbing the cutting edge
of technology in any given area whether

1292
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:11,279
of technology in any given area whether
 

1293
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:12,769
of technology in any given area whether
it be in the scientific instrument area

1294
00:29:12,769 --> 00:29:12,779
it be in the scientific instrument area
 

1295
00:29:12,779 --> 00:29:14,959
it be in the scientific instrument area
or in the spacecraft performance area

1296
00:29:14,959 --> 00:29:14,969
or in the spacecraft performance area
 

1297
00:29:14,969 --> 00:29:17,469
or in the spacecraft performance area
and moving ahead with that technology

1298
00:29:17,469 --> 00:29:17,479
and moving ahead with that technology
 

1299
00:29:17,479 --> 00:29:21,259
and moving ahead with that technology
without fear he's got to be determined

1300
00:29:21,259 --> 00:29:21,269
without fear he's got to be determined
 

1301
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:23,389
without fear he's got to be determined
he's got to be an astute philosophical

1302
00:29:23,389 --> 00:29:23,399
he's got to be an astute philosophical
 

1303
00:29:23,399 --> 00:29:25,909
he's got to be an astute philosophical
leader and he's got to bring his team

1304
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:25,919
leader and he's got to bring his team
 

1305
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:29,539
leader and he's got to bring his team
along with them in order to make true

1306
00:29:29,539 --> 00:29:29,549
along with them in order to make true
 

1307
00:29:29,549 --> 00:29:35,239
along with them in order to make true
progress in this space arena project

1308
00:29:35,239 --> 00:29:35,249
progress in this space arena project
 

1309
00:29:35,249 --> 00:29:37,549
progress in this space arena project
management is really a bottom line art

1310
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:37,559
management is really a bottom line art
 

1311
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,889
management is really a bottom line art
form of leading a group of technical and

1312
00:29:39,889 --> 00:29:39,899
form of leading a group of technical and
 

1313
00:29:39,899 --> 00:29:41,629
form of leading a group of technical and
business people into accomplishing a

1314
00:29:41,629 --> 00:29:41,639
business people into accomplishing a
 

1315
00:29:41,639 --> 00:29:45,139
business people into accomplishing a
common goal and that the success that a

1316
00:29:45,139 --> 00:29:45,149
common goal and that the success that a
 

1317
00:29:45,149 --> 00:29:47,089
common goal and that the success that a
project manager can have is directly

1318
00:29:47,089 --> 00:29:47,099
project manager can have is directly
 

1319
00:29:47,099 --> 00:29:50,989
project manager can have is directly
dependent on what I call the three P's

1320
00:29:50,989 --> 00:29:50,999
dependent on what I call the three P's
 

1321
00:29:50,999 --> 00:29:53,539
dependent on what I call the three P's
of project management persistence

1322
00:29:53,539 --> 00:29:53,549
of project management persistence
 

1323
00:29:53,549 --> 00:29:58,099
of project management persistence
patience and people dedication project

1324
00:29:58,099 --> 00:29:58,109
patience and people dedication project
 

1325
00:29:58,109 --> 00:30:00,409
patience and people dedication project
managers got to have that goal he's got

1326
00:30:00,409 --> 00:30:00,419
managers got to have that goal he's got
 

1327
00:30:00,419 --> 00:30:03,619
managers got to have that goal he's got
to have a fervent desire and demonstrate

1328
00:30:03,619 --> 00:30:03,629
to have a fervent desire and demonstrate
 

1329
00:30:03,629 --> 00:30:04,999
to have a fervent desire and demonstrate
that fervent desire of accomplishing

1330
00:30:04,999 --> 00:30:05,009
that fervent desire of accomplishing
 

1331
00:30:05,009 --> 00:30:09,139
that fervent desire of accomplishing
that goal and finally touch the most

1332
00:30:09,139 --> 00:30:09,149
that goal and finally touch the most
 

1333
00:30:09,149 --> 00:30:13,430
that goal and finally touch the most
important point of all is that a project

1334
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:13,440
important point of all is that a project
 

1335
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,339
important point of all is that a project
manager cannot succeed unless he can

1336
00:30:16,339 --> 00:30:16,349
manager cannot succeed unless he can
 

1337
00:30:16,349 --> 00:30:18,829
manager cannot succeed unless he can
inspire his team of technical and

1338
00:30:18,829 --> 00:30:18,839
inspire his team of technical and
 

1339
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,209
inspire his team of technical and
business experts to follow him and

1340
00:30:22,209 --> 00:30:22,219
business experts to follow him and
 

1341
00:30:22,219 --> 00:30:25,729
business experts to follow him and
that's what project management i think

1342
00:30:25,729 --> 00:30:25,739
that's what project management i think
 

1343
00:30:25,739 --> 00:30:29,119
that's what project management i think
is all about well suppy thank you very

1344
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:29,129
is all about well suppy thank you very
 

1345
00:30:29,129 --> 00:30:31,399
is all about well suppy thank you very
much for your help and your guidance and

1346
00:30:31,399 --> 00:30:31,409
much for your help and your guidance and
 

1347
00:30:31,409 --> 00:30:33,709
much for your help and your guidance and
wisdom and on behalf of the NASA program

1348
00:30:33,709 --> 00:30:33,719
wisdom and on behalf of the NASA program
 

1349
00:30:33,719 --> 00:30:35,119
wisdom and on behalf of the NASA program
and project management training and

1350
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:35,129
and project management training and
 

1351
00:30:35,129 --> 00:30:37,339
and project management training and
development initiative one thank you and

1352
00:30:37,339 --> 00:30:37,349
development initiative one thank you and
 

1353
00:30:37,349 --> 00:30:38,749
development initiative one thank you and
your Goddard team and the NASA

1354
00:30:38,749 --> 00:30:38,759
your Goddard team and the NASA
 

1355
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:40,159
your Goddard team and the NASA
headquarters team for making this

1356
00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:40,169
headquarters team for making this
 

1357
00:30:40,169 --> 00:30:42,440
headquarters team for making this
training film possible well that's thank

1358
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:42,450
training film possible well that's thank
 

1359
00:30:42,450 --> 00:30:44,209
training film possible well that's thank
you very much I thoroughly enjoyed it it

1360
00:30:44,209 --> 00:30:44,219
you very much I thoroughly enjoyed it it
 

1361
00:30:44,219 --> 00:30:48,799
you very much I thoroughly enjoyed it it
was idea thank you thank you you have

1362
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:48,809
was idea thank you thank you you have
 

1363
00:30:48,809 --> 00:30:50,829
was idea thank you thank you you have
just seen a NASA pilot video program

1364
00:30:50,829 --> 00:30:50,839
just seen a NASA pilot video program
 

1365
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,119
just seen a NASA pilot video program
prepared as part of the program and

1366
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:53,129
prepared as part of the program and
 

1367
00:30:53,129 --> 00:30:54,709
prepared as part of the program and
project management training and

1368
00:30:54,709 --> 00:30:54,719
project management training and
 

1369
00:30:54,719 --> 00:30:57,469
project management training and
development initiative this video series

1370
00:30:57,469 --> 00:30:57,479
development initiative this video series
 

1371
00:30:57,479 --> 00:30:59,869
development initiative this video series
is intended to be a vehicle to which

1372
00:30:59,869 --> 00:30:59,879
is intended to be a vehicle to which
 

1373
00:30:59,879 --> 00:31:02,239
is intended to be a vehicle to which
former and present NASA managers can

1374
00:31:02,239 --> 00:31:02,249
former and present NASA managers can
 

1375
00:31:02,249 --> 00:31:03,769
former and present NASA managers can
share their experiences with other

1376
00:31:03,769 --> 00:31:03,779
share their experiences with other
 

1377
00:31:03,779 --> 00:31:06,649
share their experiences with other
employees especially those interested in

1378
00:31:06,649 --> 00:31:06,659
employees especially those interested in
 

1379
00:31:06,659 --> 00:31:09,709
employees especially those interested in
management the video programs in this

1380
00:31:09,709 --> 00:31:09,719
management the video programs in this
 

1381
00:31:09,719 --> 00:31:11,839
management the video programs in this
series focus on the exchange of

1382
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:11,849
series focus on the exchange of
 

1383
00:31:11,849 --> 00:31:13,909
series focus on the exchange of
approaches in the informal communication

1384
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:13,919
approaches in the informal communication
 

1385
00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:16,609
approaches in the informal communication
of various NASA project management

1386
00:31:16,609 --> 00:31:16,619
of various NASA project management
 

1387
00:31:16,619 --> 00:31:20,060
of various NASA project management
styles the video programs are geared to

1388
00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:20,070
styles the video programs are geared to
 

1389
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:21,710
styles the video programs are geared to
gathering and sharing the individual and

1390
00:31:21,710 --> 00:31:21,720
gathering and sharing the individual and
 

1391
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,560
gathering and sharing the individual and
team experiences and lessons learned and

1392
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:24,570
team experiences and lessons learned and
 

1393
00:31:24,570 --> 00:31:26,860
team experiences and lessons learned and
the managers of past NASA projects

1394
00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:26,870
the managers of past NASA projects
 

1395
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:29,000
the managers of past NASA projects
hopefully these experiences will be

1396
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,010
hopefully these experiences will be
 

1397
00:31:29,010 --> 00:31:31,540
hopefully these experiences will be
useful to the future cadre of managers

1398
00:31:31,540 --> 00:31:31,550
useful to the future cadre of managers
 

1399
00:31:31,550 --> 00:31:34,640
useful to the future cadre of managers
each program in the series will document

1400
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:34,650
each program in the series will document
 

1401
00:31:34,650 --> 00:31:37,340
each program in the series will document
one project in an educational format

1402
00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:37,350
one project in an educational format
 

1403
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:39,470
one project in an educational format
containing a brief history or summary of

1404
00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:39,480
containing a brief history or summary of
 

1405
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,750
containing a brief history or summary of
the project followed by a discussion on

1406
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:41,760
the project followed by a discussion on
 

1407
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,940
the project followed by a discussion on
how these people managed and overcame

1408
00:31:43,940 --> 00:31:43,950
how these people managed and overcame
 

1409
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:47,720
how these people managed and overcame
their program obstacles the audience

1410
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:47,730
their program obstacles the audience
 

1411
00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:49,370
their program obstacles the audience
will be introduced to different

1412
00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:49,380
will be introduced to different
 

1413
00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:51,740
will be introduced to different
real-life project scenarios and through

1414
00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:51,750
real-life project scenarios and through
 

1415
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:54,320
real-life project scenarios and through
the videos will better understand why

1416
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:54,330
the videos will better understand why
 

1417
00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:55,640
the videos will better understand why
certain management approaches were

1418
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:55,650
certain management approaches were
 

1419
00:31:55,650 --> 00:31:58,400
certain management approaches were
selected and why some styles have been

1420
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,410
selected and why some styles have been
 

1421
00:31:58,410 --> 00:32:01,790
selected and why some styles have been
more successful than others each program

1422
00:32:01,790 --> 00:32:01,800
more successful than others each program
 

1423
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,950
more successful than others each program
will discuss detailed information about

1424
00:32:03,950 --> 00:32:03,960
will discuss detailed information about
 

1425
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,160
will discuss detailed information about
the project's objectives and history is

1426
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,170
the project's objectives and history is
 

1427
00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:08,980
the project's objectives and history is
told by the project managers themselves

1428
00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:08,990
told by the project managers themselves
 

1429
00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:11,930
told by the project managers themselves
the audience for the series is the NASA

1430
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:11,940
the audience for the series is the NASA
 

1431
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:14,380
the audience for the series is the NASA
program and project management workforce

1432
00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:14,390
program and project management workforce
 

1433
00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:16,550
program and project management workforce
especially the new less experienced

1434
00:32:16,550 --> 00:32:16,560
especially the new less experienced
 

1435
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,590
especially the new less experienced
managers who may not be familiar with

1436
00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:18,600
managers who may not be familiar with
 

1437
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,470
managers who may not be familiar with
the details of past projects this

1438
00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:21,480
the details of past projects this
 

1439
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,240
the details of past projects this
program will bring together NASA's

1440
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:23,250
program will bring together NASA's
 

1441
00:32:23,250 --> 00:32:25,280
program will bring together NASA's
seasoned professionals and capture many

1442
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:25,290
seasoned professionals and capture many
 

1443
00:32:25,290 --> 00:32:27,380
seasoned professionals and capture many
of their projects in brief visual

1444
00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:27,390
of their projects in brief visual
 

1445
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:29,390
of their projects in brief visual
learning sessions which will be made

1446
00:32:29,390 --> 00:32:29,400
learning sessions which will be made
 

1447
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,910
learning sessions which will be made
available to a broad audience we hope

1448
00:32:31,910 --> 00:32:31,920
available to a broad audience we hope
 

1449
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,200
available to a broad audience we hope
this series will aid in the development

1450
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,210
this series will aid in the development
 

1451
00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:35,420
this series will aid in the development
of a corporate memory that will benefit

1452
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:35,430
of a corporate memory that will benefit
 

1453
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:37,430
of a corporate memory that will benefit
both current and future generations of

1454
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:37,440
both current and future generations of
 

1455
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,070
both current and future generations of
NASA personnel thanks for listening and

1456
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:40,080
NASA personnel thanks for listening and
 

1457
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,630
NASA personnel thanks for listening and
be sure to watch for the next video

1458
00:32:41,630 --> 00:32:41,640
be sure to watch for the next video
 

1459
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,540
be sure to watch for the next video
program in this series